Comments for ExchangeWire.com https://www.exchangewire.com/ ExchangeWire provides global data and insight on media, marketing and commerce Fri, 23 May 2014 15:27:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.5 Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by Anonymous https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14158 Fri, 01 Oct 2010 09:00:00 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14158 Bill. I was just thinking that myself. I am a fairly cyncial man at the best of times – part of the Monaghan no-bullshit gene I carry. But that eco-system map was put together by a man who is the business of M&A. Does it look more convoluted than it actually is? Probably. Are there too many layers. Probably. Do they all intersect – and funnel the cash from buy-side to sell-side? I doubt it. A lot of the ad networks are making decent money. The yield optimisers are doing well – SAI reckons at least one of them will make 100 million dollars this year. I’m sure some of the new arrivals are making money. Consolidation seems to be where we’re heading. Ole Terry stands to do well when it all kicks off. This kind of talk however only benefits one company (starts with a G) in the long run – who will kick the competitive stuffing out of whoever remains standing.

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by Bill Swensen https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14148 Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:03:22 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14148 There *are* a ton of companies in this space, but keep in mind that map is designed to be as chaotic as possible in order to sell Terry's M&A services. It's not as if every impression has to snake through 30 companies on its way from Buyer to Seller.

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by Bill Swensen https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14157 Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:03:00 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14157 There *are* a ton of companies in this space, but keep in mind that map is designed to be as chaotic as possible in order to sell Terry’s M&A services. It’s not as if every impression has to snake through 30 companies on its way from Buyer to Seller.

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Comment on Some Thoughts On The Agency And Ad Network Hybrid Model And How It Might Affect The Display Market? by Dheeraj https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/28/some-thoughts-on-the-agency-and-ad-network-hybrid-model-and-how-it-might-affect-the-display-market/#comment-14160 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:32:04 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5948#comment-14160 Excellent post and a timely one too.

I suppose that the argument about the future of Ad Net vs. an Ad Agency must also be critically evaluated from the point of view of an Advertiser. A top-down approach to evaluating the scenario would be to think from the point of view of demand rather than the supply or intermediaries like ad nets and agencies.

You see, if advertisers can develop internal practices that favor audience vs. impression buying to predict conversions then we have a lot to talk about. The argument being given currently is that the Publishers are skeptical of putting their inventory to the exchange due to fear of sales cannibalization. The assumption here is that there will always be advertisers who are willing to purchase 'class 1' or guaranteed inventory. If however, the advertiser moves away from guaranteed to spot buying through RTB-where does that leave the publisher sales force? Advertisers have a million other ways besides display to send their message across but publishers do not have much choice other than to cave in eventually and start offering more and more of their inventory through the exchange.

WHEN that happens(and i would be surprised if that mindset change is too far), the landscape will be ruled by SSPs, DSPs and cookie banks and of course a bunch of media savvy geeks(yay!). Then the requirement from an advertiser's perspective will not be to find inventory (a large part of the reason to choose an ad network anyway) but to ensure a smooth operation of campaigns and effective optimization feedback that can fine tune future campaign cycles.

I hope I am making sense in what I am trying to communicate here. That the requirement for both ad nets and agencies is to develop skills and offerings around a services layer that will need a much (MUCH) greater focus on technology as opposed to media planning and buying as it is practiced today. Algorithms are coming and the only way to avoid loosing a job/client to them is to gear up!

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Comment on Some Thoughts On The Agency And Ad Network Hybrid Model And How It Might Affect The Display Market? by Dheeraj https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/28/some-thoughts-on-the-agency-and-ad-network-hybrid-model-and-how-it-might-affect-the-display-market/#comment-14161 Wed, 29 Sep 2010 09:32:00 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5948#comment-14161 Excellent post and a timely one too.

I suppose that the argument about the future of Ad Net vs. an Ad Agency must also be critically evaluated from the point of view of an Advertiser. A top-down approach to evaluating the scenario would be to think from the point of view of demand rather than the supply or intermediaries like ad nets and agencies.

You see, if advertisers can develop internal practices that favor audience vs. impression buying to predict conversions then we have a lot to talk about. The argument being given currently is that the Publishers are skeptical of putting their inventory to the exchange due to fear of sales cannibalization. The assumption here is that there will always be advertisers who are willing to purchase ‘class 1’ or guaranteed inventory. If however, the advertiser moves away from guaranteed to spot buying through RTB-where does that leave the publisher sales force? Advertisers have a million other ways besides display to send their message across but publishers do not have much choice other than to cave in eventually and start offering more and more of their inventory through the exchange.

WHEN that happens(and i would be surprised if that mindset change is too far), the landscape will be ruled by SSPs, DSPs and cookie banks and of course a bunch of media savvy geeks(yay!). Then the requirement from an advertiser’s perspective will not be to find inventory (a large part of the reason to choose an ad network anyway) but to ensure a smooth operation of campaigns and effective optimization feedback that can fine tune future campaign cycles.

I hope I am making sense in what I am trying to communicate here. That the requirement for both ad nets and agencies is to develop skills and offerings around a services layer that will need a much (MUCH) greater focus on technology as opposed to media planning and buying as it is practiced today. Algorithms are coming and the only way to avoid loosing a job/client to them is to gear up!

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by exchangewire https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14147 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:17:48 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14147 In reply to Wiseman.

So Google is unbeatable? Right. And that means we abandon the model in case we get crushed by the big G. Not every publisher is going to use Google to rep inventory; not every agency is going to use Invite or DFA; and not everyone is looking to get bought. One big eco-system will evolve and Google will be one of many players. Don't get lazy now, and outsource all your ad-tech requirments to Google because it will eat your service layer business alive. Fact.. Just my two-cents.

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by exchangewire https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14146 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 18:49:07 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14146 In reply to Guest.

There is no way there'll be one common exchange for trading ad impressions. Too many vested interests involved. But given that everyone is working with each other anyway, the one uniform market you spoke off might not be too far off. Of course, Google could end up conquering all. There are some workarounds for creating an index to maintain sustainable pricing. Have a look at a start-up out of Paris who are attempting to benchmark pricing across different exchanges and SSPs – advaluation.net.

Anyone interested in the idea of common exchange – a la NYSE or LSE – that acts as a clearing house for buyers and sellers should read Jerry Neumann's recent post on the subject, “The Last Dys Of The Exchange” – http://reactionwheel.blogspot.com/2010/06/last-days-of-ad-exchange.html. As Jerry points out, this might actually happen organically anyway as lack of liquidity in the market – or “sustainable pricing” – might keep away media buyers and publishers. By the way, I am not a media maven. What the hell is a maven anyway?

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by Wiseman https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14145 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:26:41 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14145 Everyone is playing into the hands of Google. You will not beat them, and more than likely, you will not get bought by them either. Stop focussing on efficiencies and exchanges and start focussing on your customer and their needs.

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by Anonymous https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14156 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 14:17:00 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14156 So Google is unbeatable? Right. And that means we abandon the model in case we get crushed by the big G. Not every publisher is going to use Google to rep inventory; not every agency is going to use Invite or DFA; and not everyone is looking to get bought. One big eco-system will evolve and Google will be one of many players. Don’t get lazy now, and outsource all your ad-tech requirments to Google because it will eat your service layer business alive. Fact.. Just my two-cents.

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Comment on Mike Nolet Talks About Dynamic Floors And Second Price Auctions; New US Eco-System Map Is Officially A Mess by Abc https://www.exchangewire.com/blog/2010/09/27/mike-nolet-talks-about-dynamic-floors-and-second-price-auctions-new-us-eco-system-map-is-officially-a-mess/#comment-14143 Tue, 28 Sep 2010 13:51:12 +0000 https://www.exchangewire.com/?p=5937#comment-14143 if publishers are getting 3x cpm per bb at Admeld but there are only 11 companies signed up for RTB and of those 11 they only rtb 40% of the time, what exactly are they paying a 3x cpm for and is there even enough volume for anyone to care?

Retargeting! Slip a few cookies in, take credit post click and whamo, you have a business model.

Do advertisers know the con yet?

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